1) i am listening to the meeting on the phone right now.
during the announcements they said there is a letter about paperback bibles and if you want to know what it says you need to read it on the notice board.
i can't read it on the notice board because i'm not there!
Elders do not go beyond the things that are written in the Bible. And by extension, they do not go beyond the Bible-based counsel written in the publications of the faithful and discreet slave.
How can anyone read stuff like this and not wonder what the heck is going on????
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so, went to the dc 2 days this weekend.
still have lots of family in and had to put in a cameo for family who had parts on the program and drama.
i left after the drama today and just spoke with my dad who is inactive and supposedly enlightened about all things jw.
That basically describes my mother-in-law as she grew up in a family where many of them would drink and some of them would do things to young girls and of course they were poverty stricten.
That sounds like my family, except guess what, we were Witnesses!! Mom was alcoholic, dad was child molester with raging temper while serving as Presiding Overseer. Good times!
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i've seen evangelical sites that show dinosaurs dying in the great flood.
these people believe that god created the earth in seven 24-hour days, and have wondered that if god could just "speak" the earth into existence, why he would need the other six days.
(couldn't he just will it into existence in a flash?).
The Jehovah's Witnesses believe whatever they're told to believe by the Watchtower. If the Watchtower says the dinasaurs died out during the Flood, then that's what they believe. But they have no problem watching Jurassic Park.
Generally, the Watchtower has had very little to say on the topic, especially in the last 30 years or so.
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guys... can you believe this???
this is a current article available on the "official watchtower web site"!!!.
"do the jehovah's witnesses believe that their religion is the only true one??
Is it presumptuous of Jehovah’s Witnesses to point out that they alone have God’s backing? Actually, no more so than when the Israelites in Egypt claimed to have God’s backing in spite of the Egyptians’ belief, or when first-century Christians claimed to have God’s backing to the exclusion of Jewish religionists. The facts speak for themselves.
HAHA, the arrogance is amazing. The Israelites' leader brought down 10 plagues on the land of Egypt, and parted the Red Sea. First century Christians were able to heal the sick, resurrect dead persons, speak in tongues, etc. What have the leaders of the JWs ever done to put themselves in that kind of company???
And I love their logic, can anyone match the definition of true religion, the definition we just made up ourselves? Well then we must be the true religion!
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at our service meeting it was announced that there is a change in the manner in which magazines are now to be delivered to the congregations.. up until now, magazines were sent to each kingdom hall via ups.
in years past magazines were sent to each congregation po's home address via ups.. going forward, magazines will be sent only as far as the assembly hall.
it is the responsibility of each kingdom hall to send brother(s) twice a month to drive out there, pick up the magazines, and return.. this of course saves a little bit of money for the society - shipping larger packages to fewer addresses will cost less.. however, what about the expense to the local congregations?.
Ok I just went "shopping" and was I surprised! There are a half-dozen companies hawking rebound publications and field service supplies for the trendy JWs. And they are not cheap!! The leather bound bibles start at about $50 or so, song books are not much less!
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at our service meeting it was announced that there is a change in the manner in which magazines are now to be delivered to the congregations.. up until now, magazines were sent to each kingdom hall via ups.
in years past magazines were sent to each congregation po's home address via ups.. going forward, magazines will be sent only as far as the assembly hall.
it is the responsibility of each kingdom hall to send brother(s) twice a month to drive out there, pick up the magazines, and return.. this of course saves a little bit of money for the society - shipping larger packages to fewer addresses will cost less.. however, what about the expense to the local congregations?.
Soft cover Bibles, does that refer to the new paperback bibles or to leather(Deluxe) Bibles?
I just saw one of the paperback NWT a couple weeks ago, how cheap looking!! Knorr must be spinning like crazy...
Oh well, most of the superzealous JWs just order a custom bound NWT from Stoops or Madzay anyway
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ok so last sunday was my last meeting.
i have been in contact with the service department over this problem with the child molesters in my hall, i have written many, many letters begging for help, i have gotten nothing for help from them, but to wait on jehovah and pray more study more, etc.
so i want them to know that they they win they have weeded me out from the "truth" i am a bad seed from satan as i cannot abide by how we handle child molesters.
I wouldn't take anything on jw-media.com as any kind of official policy for the Watchtower organization. I would guess that 90% of Witnesses have never even heard of this site. And I have yet to see any of their printed publications make any kind of reference to it.
It's a propaganda site, pure and simple.
The only organization that is blamed for abuse that goes on outside the organization itself is Jehovah's Organization.
Another one of WT apologists favorite straw men. No one is blaming the Watchtower for the abuse, but for the way they attempt to COVER IT UP. Which of course makes it easier for the abuser to continue molesting.
Ok I missed the other obvious mistake in that sentence. I don't think any organization of Jehovah's is in trouble. I think the Watchtower Society may be in trouble, but I am quite confident they are not in any way shape or form "Jehovah's" organization.
Where exactly was this speech given? By whom?
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i received this generous offering from 'anonymous brother'.
his comments : hmmm...why do i not see such things at most jw funerals?.
please give your 'thank you' to "anonymous brother'.
Ok that's just sick and bizarre!! Has any other deceased GB member gotten this kind of glorification when they croaked? Usually its 2 paragraphs at the back of next months Watchtower.
I guess if any doubted how much of clout Teddy had, well, here's your sign.
Interesting that it gives his date of birth and baptism, two items I have never seen before, which is unusual for someone so high up the ladder at Bethel. Did they ever do a "life story" article on him?
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i expect two things to happen soon, one for sure...... .
1. loads of new light, the many changes that are going to happen are evidence of new light, which is done when other gb members taking over lead use their own ideas, but it's really new light.. 2. if things get out of control with this new generation thing, the two who passed away will prob be the scrape goats for that false understanding, and no need to get rid of the apostacy since jah made sure it was taken care of.
(like ray franz for 1975, my whole family believes all those dfed were apostates who put that in the wt) funny how it was given in talks 4-5 years before ray franz was ever added to the gb ;).
Wikipedia says Schroeder died in 2006. No Apologies
members of the second group of annointed will be alive to see the end, or so they are now saying, therefore the youngest member of the anointed alive today is the key here.
how old is the youngest accepted annointed person today?
they can't be any younger than 50-ish, surely.
TD, you make an excellent point. All the twisting and reinterpreting on the generation issue does nothing to address the chronological problem with that group that supposedly began to be gathered in 1935.
Even though they have now for some reason backed off on the idea that the end of the gathering of the anointed was in 1935, the fact remains that millions fall into this group who were promised that the end would come in their lifetime.
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